The Phenomenology of Shaligram Hunting

Posted by J Foster on Jul 18, 2015 in Fieldwork in Nepal |

While the veneration and ritual life of Shaligram Stones outside of Mustang District is its own complicated matter of course, the actual experience of searching for and finding Shaligrams in the Kali-Gandaki River certainly cannot be omitted from any account of their meaning and use.

As I set out this morning, clad in my canvas field pants and a pair of Vibram KSOs (extremely well-suited to walking around in fast-moving, shin-deep, river water), I found myself a little sad that this would be my last day Shaligram hunting on the outskirts of Kagbeni. The Kali-Gandaki river bed is nearly a mile wide in most places around the village, and as the river slowly meanders back and forth across the valley from bank to bank, it reveals a new landscape of stones and silt each morning. The trick to finding Shaligrams, as I have found, is to find one of many small, shallow, side-streams (particularly ones that are clearly in the process of moving off course or have recently petered out in favor of rejoining the main river current) and walk along them slowly up-river with a sharp eye towards any recently exposed areas.

In this way, as one picks their way along through sun-warmed, crystal-clear waters, Shaligrams are slowly revealed to the discerning eye. In Hindu practice, the most important aspect of ritual veneration when it comes to both Shaligram Stones and to other murti (sacred images and statues of Hindu deities used in worship) is the darshan, a Sanskrit word meaning “to see.” But this aspect of “seeing” doesn’t just mean to see the deity physically, as one would when entering a temple (mandir) or shrine, it means to behold the deity as he or she truly is beyond the material obvious to the eye and in return, to be beheld by the deity yourself as well. This practice of seeing and being seen by the deity is thus one of the most common, and most important, parts of ritual practice among observant Hindus and is, also, one of the major driving forces behind pilgrimage throughout South Asia.

Searching for Shaligrams is its own kind of darshan. As I walked with particular care not to disturb too much sediment in the water, I noticed two especially important things about the experience I was undertaking. Firstly, the dark, almost inky, black color of a Shaligram Stone was the first thing that tended to catch the seeker’s eye (since it easily stood out against a plethora of grey and brown), the second was the subtle appearance of ripples or spirals (the tell-tale ridges of the fossil ammonite shell) along its surface that indicated that the stone in question might, in fact, truly be Shaligram. But not every stone that might initially appear this way was really Shaligram. In many cases, the refraction of light through the flowing water often gave the impression of such patterns on otherwise smooth stones and the accumulation of silt underneath the current was also often responsible for the appearance of similar looking patterns in the sand that covered the river bed. More often than not, a burst of excitement and a quick scoop of water to retrieve a sacred stone appearing in the river might end up with nothing more than a handful of sand and a plain rock.

For this reason, actually finding a Shaligram Stone often left me with the sense of something truly born from the river, something only appearing at the very moment that I happened to see it. Carried down through millennia of time (or more like 175 million years if we’re going by the discourse of science) by an ancient and sacred tirtha to be revealed just at that moment and just for me. Something that I was “seeing,” perhaps, that hadn’t been there a moment before. (Tirtha is a Sanskrit term meaning “bridge,” often referring to places where the divine world and the physical world are closer together. In this case, I’m referring to the Kali-Gandaki. Most sacred rivers in South Asia are considered tirtha)

Experiencing the discovery of a Shaligram Stone leaves one with significant food for thought. Not only are Shaligram Stones considered direct manifestations of God-Himself (unmade by the hands of men) but I would argue that it isn’t just their aniconic (non-human) shape or their natural formation that grants them such a reverent status beyond the ubiquitous murti of temples and roadside shrines; it’s the experience of seeking and finding them in the first place that bestows a sense that these objects come from some other place beyond the industry and understanding of human-kind. It is no wonder that so many travel so far just for the chance of being granted the smallest glimpse of something truly beyond. Whether fossil or deity, the Shaligram comes to us from a place none could ever truly fathom.

The play of light and water that makes a smooth, river, stone look like Shaligram.

The play of light and water that makes a smooth, river, stone look like Shaligram.

Here you can see the play of light and water that often deceives Shaligram seekers.

Here you can see the ripples that often deceive Shaligram seekers.

A Shaligram is Revealed!

A Shaligram is Revealed! You can see the round, black, Shaligram near the center of the photo.

A Shaligram Appears in the River!

And finally, a Sudarshan Shaligram, with clear chakra markings, appears in the river!

48 Comments

manish garg
Nov 10, 2015 at 1:30 am

Hi,

I am planning to visit Muktinath to bring Shaligram at home for worship.
I have a strong desire to worship Shaligram.
I am planning this journey at the end of January.
Can you pls guide me , a particular place where I can look for shaligrams into the Gandaki river.
This journey is of 9 days .
Thanks ,
Manish Garg


 
J Foster
Nov 10, 2015 at 10:22 am

Hi Manish,

I recommend visiting Kagbeni village for a few days. You will be able to get to Kali-Gandaki easily from the road out of Kagbeni towards Jomsom.


 
manish garg
Nov 17, 2015 at 2:45 am

Hi Foster,

While doing trekking from Jomsom to Muktinath , doesn’t the Gandaki river comes along the way to Muktinath ?
So , can’t we look into gandaki river for shaligram there?
or Kagbeni is the perfect place for it?


 
manish garg
Nov 17, 2015 at 3:17 am

you have also posted some pics , where did you searched for shaligrams?


 
J Foster
Nov 17, 2015 at 10:58 am

Yes, you will see the Kali-Gandaki beginning in Jomsom but you will not find many Shaligrams in Jomsom because it is so far south from Upper Mustang. Kagbeni is the best place to search for Shaligrams because the river is very wide there and there are many Shaligrams that appear in that area. From Kagebeni to Muktinath however, you are going up the mountain and away from the river, so you will not be able to search for Shaligrams once you leave the Kagbeni area. I hope that helps.


 
J Foster
Nov 17, 2015 at 11:00 am

If you read my posts called “Never a Straight Line” and “A River Runs Through It” you will see photos of where I was searching for Shaligrams. All of these photos were taken on the Kali-Gandaki river between Kagbeni and Tiri Villages.

When are you going to Muktinath?


 
manish garg
Nov 18, 2015 at 12:06 am

thanks for your valuable information.
Earlier I was planning to visit Muktinath in the month of January end but I have heard that at that time it is very cold .
So, now I am thinking to go their after Mid March.


 
manish garg
Nov 18, 2015 at 4:29 am

also I was thinking to go directly to damodar kunda .
I have heard that if you left one tulasi leave in the kunda then shaligram itself comes to take that tulasi leave , at that time you can catch the shaligram if you can otherwise shaligram will take that leave and move back into the kunda.
And also the damodar kunda is the source of shaligram and gandaki also.


 
manish garg
Nov 19, 2015 at 3:42 am

in the above post by mistake I wrote leave instead of “leaf”.


 
J Foster
Nov 19, 2015 at 9:56 am

Yes, the Damodar Kund is the source of both Shaligram and the Kali-Gandaki. If you are planning to go there, please let me know how your trip goes! I was not able to go there this June because the permits to travel to Upper Mustang are very expensive.


 
J Foster
Nov 19, 2015 at 9:57 am

January will be very cold and snowy. Most pilgrims I met usually travel to Muktinath between March and July, before the monsoon rains come.


 
manish garg
Nov 20, 2015 at 1:09 am

yeah sure I will let you know .
you find 9 shaligrams from the gandaki , you found all these in Kagbeni village ?. In how many days you found these shaligrams.
you had hired one guide also , how much price did he took for it ?


 
J Foster
Nov 20, 2015 at 9:45 am

Yes, all the Shaligrams I found came from the Kali-Gandaki near Kagbeni village. I was in Kagbeni for about 2 weeks, but it only took me 3 days to find those 9 Shaligrams. I also had a guide with me, but I was in Mustang for over 2 months doing research on Shaligrams. Most pilgrims don’t hire guides unless they plan on going to Damodar Kund (because it is required). My guide was from Kathmandu and charged about $150 a week.


 
AB
Nov 24, 2015 at 5:22 pm

It is not mere coincidence but I was reading about shaligrams and was led to this blog.what an incredible website this is and what an incredible contribution you have made to all devotees, still searching… I am speechless.The photos , the descriptions and everything.Words cannot express my gratitude to you for sharing your incredible journey.I am planning to travel to Muktinath,Damodar Kund, but the desire for collecting shaligrams from Kali Gandaki river personally tops my list! I am not a trekker and have never traveled to Nepal before.Any advice you can give to a lay man like me, keen on planning a trip from India to the Muktinath area, in particular, travelling to Kali Gandaki for collecting a few shaligrams ? I also see in the comment section, someone by the name Manish Garg, was also planning to travel.May I invite him to share his details here, so that we can try to contact each other and see if we can travel together? I spoke to an agent some months back, and it seems it works cheaper if we travelled to Damodar Kund, as a group and so it will be great to invite others reading this blog, who were keen to travel to Kali Gandaki and damodar Kund, that we can try to set up a team! I can be contacted on : bh.am@rediffmail.com


 
J Foster
Nov 25, 2015 at 11:07 am

Hello and welcome! Firstly, my advice for going on Shaligram pilgrimage would be to go with a group if you can, especially if you wish to go to Damodar Kund. The permits are very expensive and you must hire of guide into Upper Mustang. If you are unable to go all the way north to Damodar, one of the best places for searching for Shaligram is Kagbeni village. You can either stop in Kagbeni before you go on to Muktinath or you can go to Muktinath first and then go to Kagbeni on the way back towards Jomsom. If you start at Damodar, however, you will probably do Damodar Kund first and then come back towards Muktinath. Hopefully that helps!

Lastly, I will be returning to Mustang most likely sometime in June. If anyone is in Nepal then, I would be happy to meet up. I am continuing to write a book about Shaligrams and I would love to talk with you about your experiences. Would it be acceptable for me to contact you by email?


 
AB
Nov 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm

Hello there and thanks so much for your kind message.I will be delighted to receive your email and to engage with you, on the very creative research that you are doing.Hinduism is neither a religion nor a way of life – it is a signal, somewhat like the traffic sign – symbols, idols, images, colours, shapes, sounds, lights,lamps- pointing at the larger self outside, or, the one infinitely manifest within ourselves.It is a call in itself. Your attempt at discovering this vital address of the omnipotent self and how aptly that in the shaligram shila, is a journey itself, as distant and as abysmal, as the journey between identity and image, faith and belief and as enriching as the discovery of the reasons behind , why so many, across the depths of time, have continued to worship the shila or the rock, as the God himself! I look forward to hearing from you! regards and best


 
manish garg
Dec 20, 2015 at 11:55 pm

Hello both,

I am planning to travel to Nepal for collecting Shaligrams in the month of may end . I am Accompanying with one more person who travels every year there to collect shaligram from gandaki river for selling them.
So, if you want to come, we can all plan and go together.
My email id – manishgarg311991@gmail.com


 
J Foster
Dec 21, 2015 at 4:09 pm

I am still in the process of working out my travel plans, so I don’t have specific dates just yet. I will post them on this blog when I know.


 
Sree
Feb 15, 2016 at 3:56 pm

Hi All
I am planning to visit Jonsom end of August 2016. Is that a good time to search for some saligrama? If yes what’s the best place to start?
Thanks
Sree


 
J Foster
Feb 15, 2016 at 4:39 pm

Hi!

It is likely that I will also be in either Kagbeni or in the Jomsom area around the same time. August is a perfectly fine time to take Shaligram pilgrimage. You will arrive in Jomsom to start and from there you can travel to Kagbeni and Thini villages where you can find Shaligram in the river nearby. You can also take a day or two and travel up to Muktinath if you have the time. Best of luck!


 
sree
Feb 16, 2016 at 10:40 am

Hi
Great. I have max 3 days for the saligrama trip as I have to be somewhere else after that. It’ll be around 19-20 August 2016. Where r u based? It will nice to know about saligrama from you.
Thanks.


 
sree
Feb 16, 2016 at 10:57 am

Hi
Is Email an option? Mine is sreekanthrayalu@hotmail.com. Please feel free to correspond when free.
Cheers
Sree


 
J Foster
Feb 16, 2016 at 2:07 pm

Hi Sree,

I expect to be in the Kali-Gandaki region for several months. I usually work out of Ranipauwa, but I will likely be in Kagbeni by late August. Feel free to contact me at prolegomenon@gmail.com. Cheers!


 
sree
Feb 16, 2016 at 2:52 pm

Thank you will definitely keep in touch
Sree


 
manish garg
Mar 29, 2016 at 1:15 am

Hi Foster,

while I was going through your blogs , I found two notebook pages (pics) in which we can identify the name of Shaligram according to the markings.
can you Please post all the pages here , I also want to go through that.

Regards,
Manish Garg


 
J Foster
Mar 29, 2016 at 9:40 am

Hi Manish,

The notebook in question is currently being worked on and will form a significant portion of my published work when it is completed. My hope is to be able to publish a comprehensive guide to Shaligrams along with a book about pilgrimage to Kali-Gandaki. As such, it is far to long for me to be able to post pictures of every page. Is there a particular Shaligram you are interested in? I might have a sketch/photo and description of it.

JF


 
manish garg
Mar 30, 2016 at 12:21 am

I have some shaligrams at my home .. If I will send you the pics then can you tell me the names of shaligrams?

Regards,
Manish Garg


 
J Foster
Mar 30, 2016 at 9:34 am

Yes, I am more than happy to. And if I don’t know I will consult with other experts who have helped me identify Shaligrams in Nepal.

You can send the photos to: prolegomenon@gmail.com and I will see what I can do.

JF


 
AB
Apr 4, 2016 at 4:27 pm

Hello Manish/Shree,

Greetings! Considering we are all from India and are planning to visit Kali gandaki for some shaligram darshan and possibly collection, why don’t we plan among ourselves as Ms.Foster had earlier suggested, that it is always cheaper if we can visit Jomsom kagbeni and a visit to the holiest Damodar kund on helicopter/plane, when we are in a group.Kindly write to me : bh.am@rediffmail.com


 
J Foster
Apr 4, 2016 at 4:33 pm

That sounds like an excellent plan. By the looks of things, I will likely be returning to Kagbeni/Muktinath at the end of June. Hopefully everything works out for you. I am happy to offer any advice if needed.

JF


 
VJ
Jul 25, 2016 at 7:45 am

Hello there! I am planning to be in Kagbeni in about 3 weeks time 🙂 For a pilgrimage to Muktinath and for a “darshan” of the Shaligram. My grandparents traveled to Muktinath from India in 1985 and they got back many Shaligrams (but they are not with me); my wish is to get some of them to worship for myself – i have been dreaming of the Kali Gandaki river for sometime now in anticipation of my trip which is how i found this blog. It’s feels very nice to know you are writing a book on Shaligram and doing research on it. I would love to buy it when you publish. Pls do let me know 🙂 (my email id has been captured in the form so in case you can let me know, that will be very nice). And of course, if you happen to be in Kagbeni 7th – 9th August, would love to meet 🙂


 
J Foster
Jul 26, 2016 at 10:17 am

Hi VJ! I just left Kagbeni a few days ago sadly and just arrived back in Kathmandu. I will be here for some time working on the book about Shaligrams and if you have some time (by email is also fine) I would love to talk to you more about your Shaligram pilgrimage.

Best of luck on your trip also! It is monsoon right now, so please be careful, but I think you will find the Kali-Gandaki to be very lovely.


 
Sangharsh
Aug 7, 2016 at 5:39 am

Hi Miss Foster,

It is such a pleasure reading your blog.My name is Sangharsh and i am from hyderabad.I visited Muktinath last year October (during pitr paksh days).Your field of study is very fascinating.Your blog gives me a daily breather from my responsibilites of leading a team.reminds me of the beautiful mountains,Muktinath, Kaligandaki and oooh so wonderful Saligrama silas.I plan to travel to Muktinath end of september.Would love to meet you and speak more about Saligrama Silas and of course the mountains.I have a Ganesha Saligrama which i picked up along with 3 other Saligramas last year.Why is it that i do not see much about Ganesh Saligrama on your blog.What does your study say about non Vishnu Sligrama`s like Ganesha Saligrama.
sangharsh.de@gmail.com
Regards,
Sangharsh


 
J Foster
Aug 7, 2016 at 9:50 am

Hello Sangharsh!

I am so happy to hear that you are enjoying the blog! I want to make it as useful for Shaligram devotees as I can.

I am currently in Kathmandu completing some archival work, but if you have a day or two in Kathmandu on your way up to Muktinath, I would be more than happy to meet you and talk about Shaligrama! If that doesn’t work for you, I am also always available via email at prolegomenon@gmail.com.

To your question about Ganesh Shaligrams, I actually did find one during my last visit to Kali-Gandaki in June. I have since given it to another pilgrim who was looking for one as well but my work focuses on all types of Shaligrams. I have worked with Shiva Shaligrams, Kubera Shaligrams, Ganesh and Anirruda Shaligrams, along with the many Dasavatara Shaligrams. Thank you for mentioning them, I will make sure to discuss the different kinds of Shaligrams more specifically here next time.

J Foster


 
Sangharsh
Aug 15, 2016 at 4:12 pm

Hello Miss.Foster,

Thank you for your quick reply.I would love to meet you.Will keep you posted about my itenary.

stumbled across a few interesting stories which you might find ineteresting:

http://www.srigaurangashram.in/The%20hungry%20shaligram.html
http://www.srigaurangashram.in/shaligram%20saga.htm
http://www.srigaurangashram.in/visit_to_tirupati.htm

Regards,
Sangharsh


 
J Foster
Aug 15, 2016 at 9:57 pm

Thank you for the update! And thank you also for the links, these are wonderful.

J


 
GVR SUBBA RAO
Aug 16, 2016 at 2:18 pm

Hi Foster.
Are we allowed to collect salagrama shilas from river Gandaki? Are there any rules prohibiting non-Nepaleese from hunting the shilas? I am told that it is mandatory to have a bill as a documentary evidence that the shilas are purchased in a store at Nepal?
with best regards
subba rao


 
J Foster
Aug 16, 2016 at 8:53 pm

Good morning!

I have undertaken Shaligram pilgrimage three times now and it has not been my experience that Shaligrams must be purchased. You can certainly purchase Shaligrams from local sellers if you would like to (they might have a specific Shaligram you are looking for), but you can also go directly into Kali Gandaki and look for yourself (which is what I do). I have never had problems finding Shaligrams on pilgrimage and taking them with me when I leave (I am neither Nepali nor Indian).

The only trouble you may encounter is in going to Damodar Kund, if that is where you want to go. Upper Mustang requires special permits to travel and those permits are very expensive. But if your plan is to go on Shaligram pilgrimage to Muktinath, you shouldn’t have any problems.

J


 
GVR SUBBA RAO
Aug 18, 2016 at 9:19 am

Thank you very much


 
Jayanta
Mar 5, 2017 at 11:10 pm

Hi Foster

I will go Mukhtinath on 26th March 2017. From Pokhra to Jomson by flight. Please let me know from where I can collect Shaligram shila. Also how to go that place. Is tis good time to get Shaligrm shila. Waiting for your reply.

Regards,
Jayanta


 
J Foster
Mar 7, 2017 at 5:42 am

Hi Jayanta! I am actually up at Muktinath now (My apologies, but my internet connection is very poor here. So it takes me a long time to respond). The best place for you to collect Shaligrams on your own is at the village of Kagbeni. There are several places out on the Kali Gandaki River where you can go to find them either north or south of the village. I should actually be in Kagbeni at the same time and if you want, I am happy to help you for a day or two. I can most easily be found at the New Annapurna Hotel in Kagbeni (near the river). Best of luck!


 
Jayanta
Mar 7, 2017 at 8:05 am

Hi Foster

I will be there 27th March at Jomson. I will there for one day. Can You help me to collect Shaligram. Is one day is sufficient to collect shaligrams. Please let me know how to contact with you. I will be staying at Jomson.

Regards
Jayanta


 
J Foster
Mar 8, 2017 at 12:38 am

Hi Jayanta,
My apologies, but I won’t be in Jomsom. I will be up further north in Kagbeni at that time. However, you can still search for Shaligrams in Jomsom. Follow the main road past the army base and across the river. Once you cross the bridge, turn left and follow the road all the way to the jeep stand. Pass the jeep stand until you are on the edge of town and then you can turn right directly onto the banks of the Kali Gandaki River. With one day to search, you should be able to find a couple of Shaligrams, though they will likely be smaller in size. Few Shaligrams come down as far as Jomsom. Good luck!


 
Jayanta
Mar 8, 2017 at 3:45 am

Hi Foster

I will come to Kagbeni on 27th march. With the help of you I can collect the shaligram.

Regards,
Jayanta


 
Jayanta
Mar 14, 2017 at 7:15 am

Hi Foster,

I will come to Jomson on 27th march then I will come to Kagbeni to meet with you. Need help to collecting Shaligram. Please share your contact details so that I can contact with you. Please let me know how cold is this place.

Regards,
Jayanta


 
Jayanta
Mar 15, 2017 at 5:52 am

Hi Foster

Please let me know when and where you will available at kagbeni. I will go with you to search and collect shaligrams.

Regards,
Jayanta


 
J Foster
Mar 22, 2017 at 9:13 pm

Hi Jayanta!

My apologies once again, the mobile tower was knocked out in a blizzard and we have been out of all communications for over a week. Because of this, I have actually had to return to Jomsom. I would be happy to meet you there. You can find me at the Lo Monthang Guesthouse across from the airport.

Cheers,
Holly


 
Powai
Apr 25, 2017 at 11:19 pm

Hare Krishna,

I am glad that I came across your blog. It is very well detailed out.

I worship Shaligrams at home and have a desire to have a few more rare ones
( Depends on the Lord’s mercy). Your blog further ignited my desire to take that elusive pilgrimage to the sacred Kali Gandaki.

My wife and I intend to visit there either in first or second week of May this year. It is clear from what you have mentioned that one’s best chances of finding Shaligrams is near Kagbeni.

So we intend to station ourselves at Kagbeni for atleast 2-3 days. In this context would you be able to recommend a homestay as we are strict vegetarians being Vaisnavas and we don’t eat food cooked by others. So staying in conventional GH or Motels is a litttle difficult where non-veg is cooked.

Secondly, would you recommend us a local guide who could help us with our Shaligram search and perhaps a possible trek upto Muktinatha. Because unless we are in a big group, can’t possibly think of going to upper Mustang till Damodar Kund.

And in case you happen to be there around that time, we would also love to meet up with you to have some exchanges on Shaligram worship, if your schedule permits you so.

Yours Sincerely,
AT


 

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